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Stablecoins and National Security | Former CFTC Chair Timothy Massad

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4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2024

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Are stablecoins a threat to national security? How should the US government step in?

 

We brought Timothy Massad, the perfect guest to help us answer these hard questions. He was the Obama appointed chair for the CFTC, the guy who helped designate Bitcoin as a commodity over 10 years ago.

 

We touch on:

- The importance of stablecoins.

- How stablecoins compare to eurodollars.

- Weather crypto and sanctions can co-exist.

- A sensible policy for stablecoins.

- And finally, his thoughts on what happens next.

 

Timothy brings a whole different perspective from what we’re used to in our crypto bubble. That’s exactly why you should tune into this episode.

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

0:00 Intro

6:34 Timothy’s Background

9:30 Security vs Commodity

12:46 Stablecoin First Impressions

21:42 The Importance of Stablecoins

28:26 History of the Eurodollar

38:46 Economic Sanctions

47:47 Stablecoins and Sanctions

1:08:59 A Stablecoin Future

1:13:37 A CBDC Future

1:18:49 What about Privacy?

1:20:58 The Role of the Dollar

1:23:18 Stablecoins Abroad

1:25:43 Predictions

1:28:10 Closing & Disclaimers

 

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RESOURCES

 

Timothy Massad

https://x.com/timmassad 

 

Stablecoins and National Security by Timothy Massad

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/stablecoins-and-national-security-learning-the-lessons-of-eurodollars/ 

 

Five Perspectives on Stablecoins by Nic Carter

https://medium.com/@nic__carter/five-perspectives-on-stablecoins-5bc20076270a 

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Are we going to get comfortable with digital assets with tokenized assets traveling on

0:06.7

decentralized blockchains or not? They pose enormous advantages in terms of innovation, composability, open access.

0:15.1

But on the other hand, decentralized blockchains may not offer the kind of governance that

0:19.5

we'd like, the kind of ability to check identity and our financial system does turn on the ability to know who is

0:27.5

transact. So how do we balance that? That to me is the central issue.

0:40.0

Welcome to Bankless, where today we're exploring the frontier of stable coins and national security.

0:44.5

This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here with David Hoffman and we're here to help you become

0:48.6

more bankless.

0:50.6

The question today, how should the US government think about stable coins and

0:54.2

crypto from a unique vantage point something we haven't talked about before which is

0:57.8

national security? They could save to say that many in DC have different concerns than probably the listeners of

1:04.2

bankless with respect to crypto and one in particular is this. If something like

1:09.2

stable coins gain adoption does that nurf the US ability to sanction?

1:13.7

How does the US come up with policy around this?

1:16.3

Timothy Masid is the perfect guest for the conversation today.

1:19.2

He was the Obama appointed chair for the CFDC. This is the guy that actually helped

1:24.0

designate Bitcoin as a commodity way back when 10 years ago and I would call him a

1:28.8

maybe cautious stable coin advocate though there is definitely some nuance here.

1:34.0

Few things we talk about today.

1:35.0

Number one, why the US can't ignore stable coins.

1:38.0

Number two, how stable coins are similar to euro dollars?

1:41.0

Number three, is crypto even compatible with US financial

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