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Today we are doing Pope St. Simplicius. I'm your host, Dr. Elizabeth Klein. I'm here with Dr. Jean-Paul-Juge.

How are you today, Dr. Jules? Doing great.

So I was curious, I send out a list of saints to the professors and ask if they want to speak about any of these particular saints. And I have to say I was a little surprised to see St. Simplicius come back on your top list. So I was going to ask you, what were you like, yeah, that's the one. I want that saint. So you're telling me you don't have a deep devotion as A.mpo's impligious. I have to say I have never thought about him.

Oh. Yeah, that's the one. I want that saint. So you're telling me you don't have a deep devotion

as Saint-Poves and Plagueis. I have to say I have never thought about him. Oh, you know, it's always, you know, good baby name out there. That's right. Yeah, I know, keep it simple. That's right. I'm interested in, you know, Petristic, that is early Christian controversies over Christ or Christological debates.

And he was a pope right after,

or two popes after the Council of Calcedon. And so this is an important counsel in defining,

right, how Christ is both, how he is both fully human and fully God. And so, yeah, so that was

my interest. Yeah. So for the listeners, I mean,

I didn't know a thing about this particular Pope. However, I was obviously aware of the

Christological controversies being my area of study as well. And so, I don't know, as a little

historical tidbit of for our listeners, the Council of Calcedon, even though it sort of defined the crisis fully, god,

of fully man, this did not end the controversies, but rather, in some sense, fueled them.

And by defining it, debates were continued after.

This is also true of the famous Council of Nicaa.

And so for anyone out there who thinks that councils always have the last word or are self-interpreting,

this is actually not the case throughout all of church history.

Councils are often followed by periods of discussion, complications, unrest, division,

as the church sort of hashes these things out.

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