Discerning Hearts.com presents The Doctors of the Church, the Carerism of Wisdom, with Dr. Matthew

Bunsen. For over 20 years, Dr. Bunsen has been active in the area of Catholic social communications

and education, including writing, editing, and teaching on a variety of topics related to

church history, the papacy, the saints, and

Catholic culture. He is the faculty chair at the Catholic Distance University, a senior

fellow of the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, and the author or co-author of over

50 books, including the Encyclopedia of Catholic History and the best-selling

biographies of St. Damian of Malachi and St. Cotiri Ticka Kowice. He also serves as a senior

editor for the National Catholic Register and is a senior contributor to EWTN News. The Doctors of

the Church, The Charrism of Wisdom, with Dr. Matthew Bunsen.

I'm your host, Chris McGregor.

Matthew, thank you so much for joining me.

It's a privilege to be here today, especially to talk about an extraordinary doctor of the church.

I couldn't be more pleased.

And you and I had the extraordinary experience of being able to walk the same streets

and to actually be in the same places where Catherine of Sienna worshipped.

Well, to be able to walk the streets of Sa, especially just a few days after having seen her

tomb in Rome and then to see her remarkable relics in Sienna, one has the impression

that we were able to make a journey with Catherine from Rome to Sa and then back again to Rome.

It was a privilege, but it was also a potent reminder of why in the case of so many saints,

it's vital when understanding them to appreciate where they walked, where they lived, the setting, the context of their spirituality,

and some of the things that helped shape them into the saints, in her case, the Doctor of the Church that she is.

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