It's either in boundaries or seven habits of highly effective people.

I think it's seven habits of highly effective people.

But it gives this example of these parents that come to a pastor for counseling.

And they're like, our son is just lazy.

He won't get a job.

And the counselor, pastor, whatever, says, well, he's right.

He doesn't have any problems.

You've taken all the problems from him.

And he's really content and happy with how things are going because you've eliminated everything that is problem.

Like, problems aren't a bad thing for kids.

Welcome to Skalae Sisters, where we are cultivating the maximum number of thinking moms we can.

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My co-hosts today are Misty Winkler and Abby Wall.

Misty is a homeschooling mom of five, including two graduates.

She writes and podcasts at simplyconvial.com and is the author of two excellent books,

the convivial homeschool and simplified organization. Abby is basically the queen of the

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