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Squawk Pod Reports from Davos: Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei 01/24/25

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CNBC

Business News, Investing, Business, News

4494 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

At the 55th annual World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Andrew Ross Sorkin sits down with Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei. They discuss Anthropic’s large language model Claude, the future of artificial intelligence, and the AI arms race underway globally. Dario Amodei - 4:50 In this episode: Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin Cameron Costa, @CameronCostaNY

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0:00.0

We are planning this year in 2025 to build something we call the virtual collaborator.

0:10.0

Anthropic CEO Dario Amodi talking AI at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

0:18.0

What he's building and how he's pushing past doubt in AI innovation.

0:22.6

There have been maybe five or six times in those 10 years where we thought that we were hitting a wall,

0:28.6

where we thought that something didn't work, and within a few months, something slightly different was invented.

0:34.6

So how will we humans fit in to that something new?

0:39.3

At some point we're going to get to AI systems that are better than almost all humans at almost all tasks.

0:45.3

The term I've used for it, an essay I recently wrote, is a country of geniuses in a data center.

0:50.3

The progress of Emote's own large language model, Claude, and keeping an eye on AI progress in China.

0:58.0

I've been an advocate of preventing more of these chips from being shipped to China.

1:02.0

They may be able to get to the 50,000 mark, but I want to make sure we can prevent them from getting to the million mark.

1:09.0

For him, dominance is not just a matter of pride.

1:13.1

It's a matter of security.

1:15.0

If the United States can't lead in this technology, we're going to be in a very bad place geopolitically.

1:19.7

I'm CNBC producer Cameron Costa.

1:22.3

SquawkPod reports from Davos, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodi begins right now.

1:37.3

As we wind down coverage from the snowy Swiss village of Davos, we're going to zero in on one of the main topics at this

1:45.5

year's World Economic Forum, artificial intelligence. More specifically, whether this new

1:51.4

technology has hit a wall, meaning have our dreams of what AI can do hit a ceiling of tech

1:57.6

resources and capacity. We heard from Microsoft CEO, Satya Nadella, on that very issue.

2:05.1

I don't think there's a wall.

2:06.6

Things do get harder with scale.

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