Spying on NATO from a Cold War East German Army radio monitoring base Part 1 (312)

Cold War Conversations Podcast

Ian Sanders

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.8 • 758 Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2023

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Born in 1968 in East Germany Thomas had a "normal socialist" but happy childhood in a small town near Dresden. His family was viewed as exotic at that time as his mother had Hungarian citizenship which allowed her to travel to West Berlin. He was conscripted into the East German Army and signed up for 3 years as an Unteroffizier (NCO) instead of one and a half years of compulsory service. After training he is posted to a radio reconnaissance battalion based on the top of a mountain in the middle of nowhere near the inner German border. The unit was tasked with monitoring NATO surface-to-air missile batteries such as Patriots, and Nike Hercules, tracking NATO air traffic in Western Europe, and listening to air-to-ground transmissions. Thomas describes the isolated life on the mountain and harsh winters with lots of snow. The base was protected with a high-voltage double fence and sentries. With good visibility, Thomas could see the enemy on a similar mountaintop monitoring station on the other side of the border. Extra episode information here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode312/ 0:00 Introduction and background of Thomas 7:21 Thomas' schooling and impact of politics on education 16:23 Thomas's decision to join the army and experiences in Hungary 24:21 Living close to West Berlin and parents' experiences in West Germany 32:35 Experiences at the border and considering escape from East Germany 38:16 Thomas' drafting into the East German army 44:47 The drafting process and training in East Germany 50:42 Life at the outpost and working with the Czech Army 1:01:41 Social life, restrictions, and interactions with locals 1:09:15 The struggle to access Western media and relationship with officers 1:13:15 Acknowledgement of financial supporters 1:13:33 Closing remarks and teaser for next week's episode Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Love history? Check out Into History at this link https://intohistory.com/coldwarpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:03.9	Born in 1968 in East Germany, Thomas had a normal socialist but happy childhood in a small town near Dresden. His family was viewed as exotic at the time as his mother had
1:09.2	Hungarian citizenship which allowed her to
1:12.0	travel to West Berlin. Thomas was conscripted into the East German army aged 18. He signed up for
1:19.3	three years as a non-commissioned officer instead of the one and a half years of compulsory service.
1:25.5	After training he's posted to a radio reconnaissance battalion based
1:29.3	on top of a mountain in the middle of nowhere near the inner German border. The unit was tasked with
1:35.6	monitoring NATO surface-to-air missile batteries such as Patriots and Nike Hercules, tracking
1:41.4	NATO air traffic in Western Europe and listening to air to ground transmissions.
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