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Hey, Chandler Bolt here and joining me today is Patrick Lindsay O'Ne.

Goes by Pat. He's the founder and president of the table group. He's really a man who needs

no introduction, but I'll give him one anyway. He's the host of three podcasts. He's the

author of 12 bestselling books with over 7 million copies sold. I think he's the goat of fables,

the greatest of all time. It writes really high quality fables that are both both interesting but then also teach you something,

which is really hard to do. Usually it's one of the other. It's interesting or it teaches you

something. You've probably heard of many of his books. This book right here, The Five Dysfunctions

of a team. We're about to go back through it as a company book club

with my whole company, irrespective of this interview. And then I've got all my, all my audible,

also irrespective of this interview is because someone recommended it. It's like one of the few

books by him that I haven't read yet. Let's see, which one was it? I think it's the motive. So I'm about to be in the

middle of two Pat Lincione books, totally independent of this interview, which is how good his books are.

So on this interview, I want to talk about fables. How do you write a great fable? I've asked a lot of other

people, but this guy's the goat.

And then we're going to talk about working genius, his new book.

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