Welcome to the Self Publishing School podcast. This is the podcast to listen to if you're an

aspiring writer or an author who wants to be more successful. On this show, you'll learn how to

write and launch a book successfully, all from the top authors and people just like you

who are doing it at the highest level. I'm your host, Chandler Bolt, the founder

of self-publishing school, the author of the book called Published and the CEO of

Self Publishing.com. For free training on how to publish a book that sells 10,000 copies,

go to self-publishing.com forward slash free training.

Hey, Chandler Bolt here and joining me today is Crystal Payne.

Crystal Payne is a wife, a mom of three, a New York Times bestselling author, a speaker and founder of MoneySavingMom.com.

She's written multiple books, including Money Making Mom, Say Goodbye goodbye to survival mode and 21 days to a more

disciplined life. You know, she's one of those people that, that you meet her for the first time

and you feel like you've known her for your whole life. She's one of those people that you'd

send the kids over to play at her house because you know that she's just a good person,

all around good

person she really knows her stuff and and really what i'm excited to chat about is the fact that

she's been able to use books as as a part of her strategy um to to grow this massive following

around money saving mom.com i mean you guys are getting millions of Uniques a month and it's just become this huge

movement. So Crystal, so excited to have you on and so excited to chat with you today. I'm so

excited to be there, be here. And that was a little bit too kind of an intro, but thank you.

Awesome. Hey, let's, I want to start this off by going back a little bit towards the beginning.

And really, why did you decide to write your off by going back a little bit towards the beginning. And really,

why did you decide to write your first book? Why a book in general? And what was the purpose behind

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