Brian Lair on WNYC.

And as some of you know, another thing we're doing during this membership drive is a series at the end of the show that we're calling spring cleaning, organizing your stuff and your life in six different ways

over six different days, day four, focusing on cleaning and organizing strategies for neurodivergent

people, because if you have ADHD, depression, anxiety, or other what you might call executive

functioning challenges, the prospect of doing a big house or

apartment or office cleaning can feel more overwhelming than for many other people. For example,

there can be this all or nothing mentality, especially with some people with ADHD, from what

I've read, where if you're not doing a full overhaul, it somehow doesn't count.

And then the task becomes so intimidating that maybe you don't start at all.

But there are ways to approach cleaning that don't set you up for failure, even in that context.

So today we're happy to be joined by Casey Davis, therapist, host of the podcast, Struggle Care, and author of

How to Keep House While Drowning, a Gentle Approach to Cleaning and Organizing.

She also runs the popular TikTok called Domestic Blisters.

Great name, Domestic Blisters.

Casey, thanks so much for joining us today.

Welcome to WNYC.

Hi, thank you for having me.

Do a lot of people with ADHD really struggle with getting started,

that sort of task paralysis where you look at the mess and your brain just freezes before you even get going?

Oh, absolutely.

And a lot of people mistake it for being unmotivated, but motivation is a different skill set than task initiation.

Motivation is wanting to do something or seeing the value in it, whereas task initiation is actually sending the right signals into your brain and body to start the ball rolling in that direction.

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