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Spotlight — How might a long-term stock market transform tech?

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🗓️ 25 August 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Social media companies are stuck in classic multipolar traps. They must compete for our attention, so that when TikTok introduces an even-more addictive feature, Facebook and Twitter have to mimic it in order to keep up, sending us all on a race to the bottom of our brainstems. One experiment in enabling companies to transcend multipolar traps is the Long Term Stock Exchange — a U.S. national securities exchange serving companies and investors who share a long-term vision. This week on Your Undivided Attention, we’re airing ZigZag’s conversation with Long Term Stock Exchange founder, Eric Ries.

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So often, if you're a company that's focused on the short term, you create harm unintentionally

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in the long term.

0:08.0

But if you try to be a conscious company that's oriented for the long term, you just lose

0:13.0

to the companies that optimize for the short term.

0:16.0

Think about social media.

0:18.0

If I'm a social media company and I want to be less addictive and optimized for the long term,

0:23.0

well, I'm just going to lose to the companies that don't do that and go for the most addictive

0:27.0

next video in the short term.

0:29.0

If I realize that social media is driving polarization and I don't want to optimize for the

0:34.0

most engaging personalized news in the short term, well, I'll just lose to the companies

0:39.0

that are optimizing for the most engaging personalized news.

0:42.0

So the problem of if I don't do it, the other guy will, is everywhere.

0:48.0

We see it behind what's going wrong in all the systems that are driving harms across

0:52.0

the environment, public health, salt sugar fat, social media, the race to the bottom of

0:57.0

the brainstem, and we call these problems a multi-polar trap because it's not up to individual

1:03.0

companies to do the right thing.

1:05.0

And if you ask CEOs, what can we do to change this?

1:08.0

They'll often say, well, this is just gravity.

1:10.0

You can't change gravity.

1:12.0

But our guest, Eric Rees, believes you can change it.

1:17.0

Today, on your undivided attention, we're airing a conversation with Eric Rees

1:21.0

from the long term Stock Exchange.

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