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Right, David, we're a few days since the season ended. Are you feeling relaxed now that

the dust has settled and what's ultimately in the premiership been a really successful campaign?

Yeah, I think there's been that little bit of a switch off for two days or

three days, whatever it's been now. I've got a couple of games of golf in, which was really good.

We recently moved house, so there's been all sorts of carnage around my house at the minute and

living arrangements, so a little bit of time to switch on to that without the distractions at the

football side, but that never goes away either because you're always wanting to plan, you're always wanting to think about when we're coming back, what fixtures we're going to have. Yeah, because you've not really got time to do the

home life thing too much for 10 months of the year when you're focusing everything, I would imagine,

on the football. Yeah, I think, I was actually talking about this a couple of weeks ago when I spoke

about, are you happy now, are you not happy now with my wife? And she actually says to me, she says, just as one of the first days, I've cracked a smile.

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