Hello. Welcome to the Inside Outside podcast. I'm Jessica Mernan, author, horticultural therapy practitioner, and founder of Basquer, where I help people use

gardening and nature for mental, emotional, physical, and social well-being. And as much as I love nature,

I really love being inside, watching TV, doing puzzles, I'm obsessed with pop culture. So each week,

I merge those two worlds together and my guest

and I talk about nature. That's the outside part. And then a current inside obsession. Before we dive in

to our episode, as always, I share a reason why I love to grow. And in no particular order,

reason number four of why I grow things to create more movement in my

life. I've had a long history of chronic illness specifically with my endometriosis and endymiosis,

and because of that, I have some nerve damage and because of some other body things,

sitting for long periods of time

can be really difficult for me and painful. And even though my profession now is helping people

with nature, I still have to sit and edit this podcast, write my newsletter, do invoicing,

pitching, and scheduling, sitting. And yes, I know that there's those

walking treadmill desk things, but A, I don't have space for it. And I just kind of don't want

one of those. So I'm sitting a lot still. And sometimes I don't want to go for another walk,

but I want to be outside doing something. So my garden has been a huge

motivator to move my body more, whether I'm seating or weeding or raking or filling pots or

cutting bouquets. I'm constantly moving my body outside. And it just makes me feel a lot better.

And it's really helped offset all the sitting that I do doing things like this podcast.

So that's my number four reason of why I like to grow. Today's guest, I don't think she ever gets tired of walking.

I'm talking to Emily Pfeiffer. Emily Pfeiffer is the owner of one of my all-time

favorite restaurants, Botanica, in Los Angeles. She also writes the newsletter, read, eat,

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