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I remember Jason Whitlock as a sports writer, and then I was introduced to Jason Whitlock,

the political commentator.

Is it fair to call you that, Jason?

I prefer culture critic, but...

Culture critic. But political commentator is fair. I still, you know, write and talk about sports

as well. That's why I just think it's all the same umbrella. It's all culture and that's what I'm

trying to comment on. Culture, culture critic. I like that. I like that a lot. And so Jason was

kind enough to have me on his podcast, Fearless with Jason Whitlock the other day to talk about

an interesting interview I did with Dan

Levitard. And I appreciated it so much and I've gotten so much feedback, Jason. And, you know,

the one and only Al Michaels called me and said, oh my gosh, I love this guy. And, you know,

he'd known you from before, but this solidified things for him.

But what was interesting is at the end of our conversation, I mentioned that I was pro

choice and you said, see, you're pro choice and I'm pro life and we can get along.

And I thought that's what I want to talk to Jason about when I have him on the podcast

because the timing is perfect for this conversation. How did you arrive at your

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