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Spoon & Rusty Nail

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4.811.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

It was all they had. A spoon and a rusty nail. But for the young Uyghur men trapped in a cell, it meant… escape. 

Thank you, Hashim, for sharing your story with us.

This episode was reported in partnership with Coda Story.

Reported by Isobel Cockerell of Coda Story. Produced by Isobel Cockerell and John Fecile. Original score by Renzo Gorrio. English translation for Hashim by Ezra. Artwork by Teo Ducot.

Season 16 - Episode 5




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0:24.9

we're looking at science or not science, we bring a rigorous curiosity to get you the answers.

0:30.4

And hopefully make you see the world anew. Radio Lab. Adventures on the Edge of what we think we know.

0:35.9

Wherever you get your podcast.

0:45.3

Music the edge of what we think we know. Wherever you get your podcast. I am the older brother.

0:48.6

There's older kids everywhere like to say I was the boss.

0:52.9

So when I decided I had to leave the wacky religious cult we were raised in in my late teens.

0:59.6

After the smoke cleared, my brother abandoned the cult as well.

1:04.1

Later, I started school at Grand Valley State University.

1:08.2

My brother immediately enrolled at Grand Valley State University. There I stumbled

1:13.6

across an incredible program that sent me to rule Japan for a year. All expenses paid.

1:19.6

While later, my brother attended the same program right after I did. Later, I decided I want to live and work in Asia for a few years.

1:30.3

My brother reached the exact same conclusion for himself.

1:34.3

And after a while, I plan to return back to the States.

1:39.3

But this time, my brother decided no.

1:49.7

No, instead, he was going to move from rural Japan to big city, Tokyo.

1:53.0

Mion lights, fancy people, nightlife.

1:55.3

I hugged him.

2:01.3

Wished him good luck before flying back alone on the jet plane.

2:09.2

This is why I wasn't there when he had a mental breakdown.

2:18.3

On the streets of a foreign city, a city he didn't know that didn't know him.

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