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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Spooked w/ Vincent Spano

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Tv & Film

4.57.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 143 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the episode, “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6), discuss the tragic Rachel Hoffman case, and interview the fantastic Vincent Spano.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Rachel Hoffman
The New Yorker
ABC News
Tallahassee Democrat
Wikipedia - Operation Mongoose
Wikipedia - Operation Northwoods
Wikipedia - Los Zetas

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Throwaways by Sarah Stillman

Next week’s episode will be “Dance, Lies and Videotape" (Season 21, Episode 17). 

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:06.1

Of the Law and Order franchises,

0:08.1

SVU is considered especially watchable.

0:10.7

We are the amateur detectives

0:11.9

who kind of investigate the vicious felonies

0:14.0

these episodes are based on.

0:15.6

These are our stories.

0:17.1

Dun-dun!

0:17.7

Dun! Dun-d-D-D-D-D.

0:34.7

Hoot. It's another episode of That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast.

0:39.0

I'm Lisa Trager.

0:40.4

And I'm Kara Clank, and every week it's SVU episodes, true crimes, fun guests, and

0:47.4

talking about heated rivalry.

0:50.8

I finished.

0:51.6

You finished it.

0:52.3

I finished.

0:53.2

I got my homework assignment. I did my homework assignment. I put my nose to the grindstone and I finished it up. I loved it. It was so good. I don't want to spoil anything. If you haven't finished cheated rivalry, I'm sorry. There's also books, like the memes, if you haven't seen the memes or the books or this show, like fast forward.

1:11.8

I just like the way the season ended because in my mind, this is exactly how I felt about baby girl. Remember when I saw baby girl and I kept going, when is one of the men going to kill her? When is one of the men going to kill her? Like, either her husband's going to kill her. And then like, that's not what happened. In the end, it was just kind of like an ending of people working through things and figuring it out.

1:29.7

In this episode, it was just kind of like an ending of people

1:27.7

working through things and figuring it out. In this episode, I kept being like, oh my God, they're going to get out it. It's going to be all over the internet and they're going to lose their careers and everyone's going to be mad at them. And his mom's going to lose all his endorsements and like, whatever. And it's like, that's not what happened. Like, they had this like nice, lovely ending. I just thought it was going to end on

1:45.1

some horrible cliffhanger that we were going to be like, oh no, but. Well, so that's, okay, so a few

1:52.6

things that have been targeted to me on the internet. Okay. One, that's why people are so comforted

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