Splitting the Dog Vote with David Roth

Normal Gossip

Comedy

4.8 • 5.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Defector editor David Roth joins us for our SEASON FINALE! We're about to dive into the stupidest election drama you've ever heard.

If you love Roth, check out his podcast, The Distraction!

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Normal Gossip is hosted by Kelsey McKinney (@mckinneykelsey) and produced by Alex Sujong Laughlin (@alexlaughs). Jae Towle Vieira (@jaetowlevieira) is our associate producer. Abigail Segel (@AbigailSegel) is our intern. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor.

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