Hey folks, this is Risk.

The show where people tell true stories they never thought they dared to share.

I'm Kevin Allison and every Thursday we release these special episodes where we look

back at content from the earlier years of the podcast.

This year, while we're doing a huge fundraising effort to keep the series from having

to end our run, we're doing something especially special.

On many of the upcoming Thursdays, I'd like to rerun some of the all-time classic

risk stories.

This is our way of asking you, where else can you get such extraordinary content as this?

Our way of reminding you that we need your help to keep this irreplaceable institution

alive and well.

But we're also featuring conversations with the storytellers about these all-time classics.

Today we have Spitting in the Face of the Devil by Bob Brader.

I have to warn you, this story concerns child abuse, physical, emotional, and sexual.

For the occasion of rerunning it this week, we recorded a conversation between Bob and

the therapist, Mariana Void, that we just posted over at patreon.com slash risk.

Mariana is a drama and movement therapist, and she and Bob dug into the psychological

aspects involved in Bob's having shared this extraordinary story.

Here's a little bit of what that sounds like.

The very first time I went to therapy, I finally got insurance through this one job I had,

and I was very excited because I was going to be able to go to therapy because I was

like this, you know, anything to help, whatever.

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