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White Horse Inn

Spiritual Technologies: Searching for Transcendence without God with Ashley Lande

White Horse Inn

Sola Media

Christianity, History, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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FREE BOOKLET - https://solamedia.org/offers/thewarwecantsee/

This essential guide examines what the Bible actually teaches about Satan, demons, and spiritual warfare.

The hosts have an eye-opening interview with author Ashley Lande about her past experiences with psychedelics and New Age spirituality. The conversation explores how, through psychedelic use, people are having encounters with spiritual beings and the perennial temptation to bypass the means of grace to seek direct contact with the divine.

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0:00.0

One of the most mysterious and oftentimes misunderstood claims in the Bible is that spiritual beings such as angels, demons, and Satan are real.

0:11.0

But discussions around spiritual beings are often speculative and filled with images from pop culture.

0:18.0

Solar Media's booklet, The War We Can't See, is a short 70-page resource that

0:23.6

clearly examines scripture's teaching on Satan, demons, and spiritual warfare. It even includes

0:30.7

an FAQ section highlighting questions such as, Who with the Nephilim? Can the devil read our

0:36.4

thoughts? Do we have guardian angels?

0:39.2

Download your free digital copy today at solomedia.org slash offers.

0:47.8

Just this tension warring with me, you know, I was so tired of trying to save myself,

0:54.0

which is essentially what I was trying to do

0:56.3

with psychedelics and yoga, meditation, all these things. I was just so weary after so many years of that,

1:02.5

but I also just had such resistance to Jesus Christ to the gospel. But I just remember that

1:08.0

first time I insisted, you know, we sit near the back

1:11.3

and just, just weeping in waves as the worship music was coming over me. And I think even then,

1:20.6

though I tried to rationalize it as like, oh, I'm pregnant, I'm hormonal, you know, like,

1:24.8

of course I'm going to cry. But I was still viewing it as, oh, I can, I can, like, incorporate Christianity into my grab bag of things, you know?

1:35.3

Interesting.

1:36.2

It's just one of many lenses through which the divine is understood.

1:57.0

Yeah. divine is understood. Applying the Ritches of the Reformation to the modern church. This is Whitehorse Zinn, a weekly roundtable discussion about theology and culture.

2:14.9

It is becoming trendy to use psychedelics, and while using so, people are supposedly encountering spiritual beings, but there's nothing new under the sun after all.

2:24.9

Why is this becoming a trend again in the United States? In our psychedelics, a shortcut to meet with the divine.

2:31.6

We'll be engaging these kinds of questions with our special guest,

2:35.0

Ashley Landy, the author of The Thing That Would Make Everything Okay Forever, Transcendence, Psychedelics,

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