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Spiritual Ecology with Satish Kumar

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🗓️ 10 April 2016

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this interview we hear from Satish Kumar: former monk, author, editor of Resurgence & Ecologist Magazine, long-time peace & environmental activist, founder of Schumacher College, and TED Talk alumnus. We spoke about going upstream, the fallacies of economic growth & consumption, the principles of Buddhist and Gandhian economics, what a real sharing economy looks like, and dream time.

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to make a donation.

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Thank you.

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Oh. You are listening to an upstream interview, which is part of the Economics for Transition Project.

0:39.0

Today we're joined by Satish Kumar, a long time peace and environmental activist, the author of several books on spirituality, activism, and ecology, the editor of Resurgents and Ecologist magazine and the founder of Schumacher College.

1:00.0

Welcome Satish.

1:02.0

Pleasure to be with you.

1:04.0

Is there anything else you'd like to say by way of introduction?

1:07.0

I think what you have said is perfect.

1:10.0

One of my background in economics is that I was inspired by the economics of Mahatma Gandhi and I worked in the Gandhian movement in India so I have some Gandhian and Buddhist

1:27.3

background. And so there is a field called Gandhian economics.

1:33.2

Yes.

1:34.2

What does that mean?

1:35.2

For someone who's never heard of it, what does that entail?

1:37.4

Gandhian economics is economics of permanence, like permaculture idea. So economics which does not go linear from taking, using and throwing away.

1:50.0

But economics which is cyclical.

1:53.0

So it's a lasting economy.

1:56.0

Economy is not only for 50 years or 100 years or 500 years,

2:01.0

economy should be such that it can last for millions of years. If you have to have

2:05.9

something which lasts for millions of years, it has to be permanent economy. So economics of

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