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Welcome to the Double X Gab Fest for Thursday, April 16th, the spinster edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a writer at Slate.

I'm joined in the New York studios by June Thomas, editor of Outward Slate's LGBTQ blog. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah. And Noreen Malone of New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hi, Hannah. So I want to jump right in, but also I have a confession to make, which I made to you guys over email about cats and dogs regarding our last show, which is that my brother came to visit me with his dog, and it was halacious.

And so I, like, forgot what it's like to have dogs around. Now, that could be because

dog culture has changed in the sense that people now, like, treat dogs the way people

treat children, like they pay a huge amount of attention to the dogs, or it could be

that I just forgot about dogs. But it was, I was really nice to my cat. So for all the

cat lovers out there who hate me after the last segment, let's just say my cats and I have had a

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