Spinning the Block Doesn’t Work Without This ft. Jerrie Johnson and Dria Brown

LOVERS by Shan

Lemonada Media

Relationships, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Health & Fitness

5.0 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Have you taken my MasterClass yet? New subscribers get access to my class and hundreds of others starting at $10 per month. Right now, our listeners get an additional 15% off any MasterClass annual membership at masterclass.com/lovers.________________________ In this episode of Lovers, Jerrie Johnson (NAACP-nominated actor best known for role on Harlem) and Dria Brown (the creative doula) share the story of how they fell hard, broke up, and then made a conscious decision to rebuild their relationship differently the second time. The first time around, their connection was intense, passionate, and undeniable. But intensity alone wasn’t enough. Before getting back together, they chose to start over as friends, and in doing so, they realized something uncomfortable: they weren’t actually as strong of friends the first time as they thought. This conversation explores what it truly means to be friends with your romantic partner, why passion can mask incompatibility, and why many couples confuse chemistry for foundation. If you’ve ever considered getting back together with an ex, or if you believe you’re “best friends” with your partner, this episode will challenge you to define what that actually means. Because sometimes spinning the block only works when something fundamental changes. Are you and your lover really friends? Try this relationship check in to find outhttps://www.loversbyshan.com/resource/relationship-checkinNAACP - Vote for Jerrie's nominationhttps://vote.naacpimageawards.net/categories/8f53f295-6f7a-42f1-a40f-08de2c5a3e90/entrants Follow Jerrie JohnsonInstagram → https://www.instagram.com/jerriejohnson/ TikTok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jerriejohnsonOfficial Website → https://www.jerriejohnson.comSubstack → JerrieJohnson.substack.com Follow Dria BrownInstagram → https://www.instagram.com/driabrown/Official Website → https://www.thecreativedoulastudio.com/ Want more Lover?Receive the weekly Love Letter → http://loversbyshan.com/newsletterJoin the Lovers Community → https://www.loversbyshan.com/communityExplore quizzes and worksheets → http://loversbyshan.com/quizzes If you haven’t subscribed to Lemonada Premium yet, now’s the perfect time → lemonadapremium.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Lemonada
0:02.0	There is an idea that you're with the person that you love, but you don't really have to like them.
0:12.0	Do you like me?
0:15.0	Mathematically, it's probably pretty difficult to get to a place where you're with somebody that you are genuinely attracted to, that you are drawn to, that you want to do life with, and that you also rock with, regardless
0:25.5	of if you guys are having sex or not. I wanted a foundation of safety before romance made us
0:34.5	both err into performing for each other. I want to be your outlet and not your obstacle.
0:40.1	I want to die thousands of deaths and have thousands of births and not be okay with the person
0:45.9	that I'm with. Did you know what that meant?
0:53.3	Hi there, lovers. Welcome to lovers of podcast. My name is Shan. My favorite quote is the key to happiness is managing expectations. So here's what to expect from this episode. My guests are Jerry and Drea. They are engaged to be married. They're going to tell the story of going from romantic partners to a breakup to becoming just friends to rebuilding a romantic
1:12.8	partnership with friendship as the foundation of it. You're also going to get some ads in this
1:17.7	episode and you're going to get some beautiful visuals as well. For those of you listening,
1:22.5	we have a treat for you too. At the end of the episode, I share something vulnerable and
1:26.6	personal, a little secret for
1:28.1	your ears only. Also, did you know we're going to be offering ad-free and bonus episodes this year?
1:33.7	Our first one will be an hour of unreleased audio from our interview with Jerry and Drea.
1:38.0	So if you loved this episode and wished it was longer, subscribe to Lemonada Premium.
1:43.3	Just tap subscribe on Apple Podcasts or head to Lemonada Premium.com.
1:48.3	So if you enjoy this episode, please do me a favor.
1:51.1	Subscribe wherever you are listening or watching.
1:54.3	And I promise you, you're going to really enjoy this discussion.
1:57.4	Now, if you enjoyed it, as much as I hope you will,
1:59.5	you're going to want to follow Jerry on her brand new substack. You're also going to want to go and vote for her because
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