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The DSR Network

Spies that Bind

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Nicholas Eftimiades, a top expert on Chinese espionage, tells Jeff Stein he doubts reports that Beijing’s top counterspy defected to the US—but that Beijing has “many” moles in U.S/ intelligence. And Jeanne Meserve talks with top former FBI national security official Jay Tabb about the challenges of dealing with home-grown American terrorists. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:17.0

SpyTalk, a podcast at the intersection of intelligence,

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foreign policy, national security and military operations

0:24.0

with Jeff Stein and Jean Miserve.

0:28.0

Welcome to the 11th edition of the SpyTalk podcast.

0:33.0

I'm Jeff Stein.

0:34.0

And I'm Jean Miserve.

0:36.0

Great to have you all aboard.

0:38.0

Coming up, I'm going to be talking to a former top FBI official,

0:41.0

Jake Tab, about just how difficult it is to find

0:45.0

and investigate domestic terrorists.

0:47.0

His bottom line is pretty sobering.

0:49.0

I hate to say it.

0:51.0

I'm almost...

0:53.0

I'm a crazy optimist that we can always get right.

0:56.0

But honestly, it makes prevention almost down to a zero.

1:00.0

And you can't detect who they are.

1:02.0

Wow, Jean.

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