Try to convince someone that they need something is a lot of work if they don't already believe that they do.

Being there when they realize that they need it is much easier.

But to try to convince people that they're wrong basically and that they don't

understand it. It's been easier for me to sort of build the best product out

there and so when someone does come around and say hey I need I need a

website for my podcast and they go into a Facebook group and say I'm thinking about

building this what should I use and nine out of ten things say go use pod page it's

way easier like enough podcasters have had that kind of experience where they're

sort of like a mini army now that just helped me.

Why are we all trying to grow so big so fast or even grow big at all?

Is it possible to have a lean, small, nimble, flexible business that gives you a lot of time in your day,

but also still generates passive income?

Well, today we're talking with the founder, Brendan Mulligan, who has created a number of different

software companies and one in particular we're going to dive into today called Podpage.

It's a website that helps you build websites for your podcast, very niche within a niche, however, very successful

and it successfully generates enough money to live a very happy life.

Yet there are opportunities to grow the speaker but Brendan

found their chooses not to go to them he doesn't need venture capital he doesn't want

all of that he wants time and freedom and a stable business and pod page is that.

And we're going to talk about the journey to pod page, the number of different softwares

that Brendan has experimented with, what he learned from those failed attempts,

and what he's learning now.

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