All right, so we have a billionaire on the podcast today,

which is pretty amazing.

And he's gonna unveil a number of different things

that's going through his mind

since stepping down from CEO of his company

and just being on the executive board.

So he still has a little bit to do with the company.

However, he's focused on his next stuff.

And we talk about life after CEO,

life as a father and having to balance all of this stuff.

And how the story even began,

which is pretty amazing how he boosts trapped

and put this thing together himself.

His name is John Orger, founder of Shutterstock.com.

And again, former CEO, he has since stepped down

to allow somebody else to take the day-to-day efforts

in the business forward.

And it's a great story.

So very casual conversation you're about to hear.

Hope you enjoy it.

Welcome to the Smart Passive Income Podcast,

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