Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire, the only

daily show interviewing the world's top entrepreneurs seven days a week. Today we're pulling a classic

episode from the archives and we'll be breaking down spend management in the wave of change in

fintech. To drop these value bombs, I are brought to Thijio, Cote, and Eofire

studios. Theijo is the co-founder and CEO of Airbase, the leading spend management platform

for small and mid-sized companies. And today we're talking about identifying problems that you

are passionate about working on, even if nobody is paying you, and how to be in a position

where you are objectively building a good business where you

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Fayjo, say what's up to Fire Nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that

most people disagree with. Well, John, that's a tough one. First of all, thank you for having me.

And it's good to be on your podcast. And, you know, one of the things that maybe most people

associate with success is money, right? And, you know, one of the things that maybe most people associate with success is money, right?

And at least from my perspective, I've never pursued money.

First of all, I don't want to go so far as to say that I'm very successful, but whatever little success I've had.

I think I've always focused on just doing the

things that I find very interesting and I'm passionate about and, you know, the money is taking

care of itself. So that's what I continue to do, put myself in situations where I wake up in

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