Spencer Pratt’s Obama Comparisons, Plus Life and ’The Odyssey’ With Jay Pharoah

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🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 153 minutes

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Van and Rachel check in on the California primary races, and discuss Tyler, the Creator's disdain for top-five lists before senior politics reporter at Axios, Marc Caputo, joins to break down the congressional vote on Iran. Plus, comedian and rapper Jay Pharoah sheds light on fame, faith, and impressions. (0:00) Intro (12:18) Spencer Pratt and the L.A. mayoral race (37:03) Tyler, the Creator on top fives (50:46) Marc Caputo on the war powers resolution (1:16:43) Sloane Stephens gets an awkward introduction (1:32:37) Jay Pharoah joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Jay Pharoah and Marc Caputo Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Haryl is on. Is Ivan Lacey Jr.?
0:12.0	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:13.7	Yo, we got Jay Farrell on the show today.
0:16.6	It's going to be a good conversation.
0:18.6	Surprising interview with Jay Farrell to me.
0:21.6	When we had him on the last time, I can't remember what we were talking about, but it wasn't this conversation.
0:27.9	Well, he's in person this time.
0:29.3	I've changed the energy.
0:30.1	Well, yeah, but we still do good interviews.
0:32.4	Rachel, are you familiar with the game 82 and O?
0:34.9	I'm not.
0:36.0	I'm playing it right now.
0:37.4	Well, hello. What? So this is a game. Turn your computer around. That has gone viral where you are given I swear to God, guys, I'm in no way being paid by these people. It's such a shame you have to say this. So this is how the game works.
1:10.3	You are given, so I play hoop by Q. Basketball. Right. So you're giving a team. Okay. Right. It starts off, AT 1060s. You spin. So it's like you're trying to build a team that would go 82 and O that wouldn't lose a basketball game. Oh, wow.
1:14.5	So from Utah in the 90s, who do you choose?
1:14.5	Well. would go 82 and no that wouldn't lose a basketball game. Oh, wow. So from Utah in the 90s, who do you choose?
1:20.7	Well, so unfortunately for everybody that's like listening right now, I got to play the game.
1:26.7	And if you have a choice from Utah in the 90s, the first person that you're going to choose to put that power forward is Marlon. It's Marlon.
1:27.9	I'm sorry. The game don't know about different shit that happened no okay i'm trying to win the fucking
1:32.7	game okay so then i spin again right and it gives me Milwaukee in the 2010s now here's
1:43.0	here's the thing milwaukee in the 2010s you can, here's the thing.
1:47.9	Milwaukee in the 2010s, you can go one of two ways here.
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