Hey guys, Joshua Lewis here with Remnant Radio, and I'll tell you about Rimcon this spring in San Diego, California.

The dates are February 5th through the 7th, and the subject of the conference is growing in the Gifts of the Spirit.

You can join us there in person or via live stream, and what you're going to get out of that conference is some serious theological training on the gifts of the Spirit.

What are they? How do they operate?

There's also going to be opportunities to break out and practice spiritual gifts in a kind of biblical,

safe, and orderly way. We've got lectures from myself, Michael Miller, Michael Roundtry, John Mark Baker, from the Minor Prophets, and Dr. Sam Storms. So if you're looking to move beyond just the theoretical and learning the theology of spiritual

guests, but you're actually wanting to start practicing them for yourself, I'd encourage

you to come out and hang out with us February 5th through the 7th there in San Diego, California.

Hey, everybody, welcome to the wonderful world of remnant radio. I've got Molly Worthen with us, and we're going to be talking about her book, Spellbound. It's going to be an exciting program. You guys stay tuned. Welcome back to the wonderful world of remnant radio. My name is Joshua Lewis, and in this program, we're talking about how charisma has shaped American history from the Puritans all the way

to Donald Trump. Before we dive into the subject matter today, I want to encourage you guys, subscribe to the channel, like, share, engage with the content here on Remnant Radio. We thank you so much for viewing regularly. And if you want to stay up to date on all the things we're doing, conferences, courses, all that fun stuff. There's a link in the description to the runitradia.com

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get all of those updates. Without further ado, I want to introduce you to my guest today, Molly. Tell us a little bit about yourself and your ministry before we dive into the subject matter. Well, thanks so much for having me. I am a professor of history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

I've been there for about going on 14 years now, I guess.

It's interesting to think of being a professor as a kind of ministry. I guess it is.

I also do a fair amount of journalism about religion and politics and higher education, really focused on

trying to get as much theology into the public square, into conversation in mainstream secular

spaces as I can. And I suppose at my university, I mean, there's a kind of pastoral component

to teaching and working with students that is really important to me. And it's always really fun to

be engaged with students who are trying to work out their relationship to the history of the

ideas and the religious traditions that we're studying. Yeah, it's fun. I think that theology can be

a lot of abstract ideas.

And I found personally the way that theology sticks in my mind and I'm able to like grapple

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