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Thank you, God, God, God's the Fronso. Welcome back to the history of the papacy podcast, a podcast about the Popes of Rome and Christian Church.

Prepare yourself to step behind the ropes and leave the official tour of the story of the

popes and Christianity. I am your host, Steve Guara, and I thank you for joining me on this journey.

Welcome back, everyone. Today, I am introducing a short new series in collaboration with Gary Stevens of the History in the Bible podcast.

This series is bittersweet because it represents the last set of episodes on Gary's podcast.

I am incredibly honored to be a part of Gary's podcast Swan Song for this series.

In this series, Gary developed a number of speculatory scenarios where if a few events went differently, the trajectory of Christianity may have changed markedly. We talk about the history of academic speculation

and counterfactual history, how that particular approach is quite controversial for some

quite good reasons, but shouldn't be completely

discarded either. Plus, how speculating on history is just plain fun. I know you enjoy it. I enjoy it.

I would dare to say anybody who is a fan of history enjoys speculating. So with that approach in mind, nothing we said on

these topics is at all exhaustive. We would love to hear your thoughts on our speculations

and your own speculations on these topics. There could be very well some follow-up episodes based on your

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