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Spectator Out Loud: Sam Carlisle, Alberto Giubilini and Taki

Best of the Spectator

The Spectator

News Commentary, News, Daily News, Society & Culture

4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode, Sam Carlisle, a mother of a disabled child, says her family has been abandoned during the pandemic; Alberto Giubilini considers the ethics of lockdown; and Taki explains why New Yorkers are leaving the city in droves.

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0:00.0

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0:06.1

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0:09.7

Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash telegraph.

0:18.2

Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud, where every week we ask three of our writers to read their piece from a new issue of the magazine.

0:28.8

I'm Fraser Nelson. Now this week we're going to be joined by Sam Carlisle, who's a mother of a disabled child, Elvey.

0:35.4

She says her family have been abandoned by the government during the

0:38.4

pandemic. We'll also hear from Oxford University's Dr. Alberto Jubilini on whether another

0:44.6

lockdown is ethical and as a scholar in the subject he'd know. Have the alternatives, he says,

0:50.4

been rationally assessed? If he hadn't, it's not an ethical consideration. And finally,

0:55.9

for the first time on the podcast, our great writer Tacky, who's been with us since the early 70s,

1:02.0

hasn't missed an episode even when he was in prison, tells us why the New Yorkers are fleeing

1:06.8

the city. First up, Sam Carlisle. When lockdown starts, all kinds of things stop. The first

1:14.2

one in March was the worst time of my life as a parent, not because of my daughter's severe

1:20.0

disabilities, but because of the lack of support. Elvys 19. She has a mental age of three, sleeps four hours a night and can't walk.

1:32.3

She has to be showered, dressed, fed and physically moved around our home. I have learned so

1:39.1

much from my beautiful, funny daughter. She works incredibly hard to achieve the smallest things. We were told

1:46.2

Elvie wouldn't live past two and that she was unlikely to speak. In the summer, she said her first

1:52.8

five-word sentence. I want crisps, please, mummy. Through necessity, being Elvie's mum has made me resilient and resourceful, but the

2:03.6

pressure of caring in lockdown nearly broke me and thousands of other parents. And so this second

2:09.8

national lockdown is terrifying. The provision for disabled children was inadequate before anyone

2:16.3

had heard of COVID-19. In 2018, the disabled children was inadequate before anyone had heard of COVID-19.

2:18.3

In 2018, the disabled children's partnership discovered a 1.5 billion funding gap

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