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Spectator Out Loud: Owen Matthews, Lionel Shriver, and Peter Hitchens

Best of the Spectator

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Owen Matthews on Russia's plan to unleash chaos in the West (00:50); Lionel Shriver on the peculiar similarities between the open letter and the ransom note (11:00); and Peter Hitchens on why he won't be wearing a mask when he's giving blood (19:40).

Spectator Out Loud is a weekly podcast featuring some of the writers from the issue that week, reading out their pieces. Click here for previous episodes.

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0:00.0

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0:07.8

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0:19.6

Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud, where each week a few of our favourite writers read out their articles in the issue.

0:27.6

This episode will be joined by Omer Matthews, who reads his cover piece about how Russia plans to unleash chaos.

0:34.9

And we'll be joined by Lionel Shriver, who picks out on the interesting

0:38.6

similarities between the open letter and the ransom note. And at the very end, Peter Hitchens,

0:45.2

who talks about why he'll be putting his foot down on wearing a mask during blood donation.

0:50.8

First up, Owen Matthews. There's only one person who will be genuinely pleased with the Intelligence and Security Committee's Russia report finally revealed on Tuesday, and that's Vladimir Putin.

1:02.9

Russia emerges as an amorphous and formidable enemy, all the more so because the inconclusive and much redacted report contains next to no substantiated

1:12.6

allegations.

1:13.6

Instead, Russia appears as a phantom unknowable menace, and this will spawn a thousand conspiracy theories,

1:22.6

far more corrosive and confusing to our politics than any Moscow-generated Twitter storm or document leak.

1:31.3

There's no smoking gun on Brexit, yet the government-induced delay in publication allows anyone

1:37.2

that way inclined to imagine a cover-up. Even the insistence that the state should do more to prevent

1:43.2

Russian meddling plays into Putin's hands.

1:46.0

The fear of Russian interference in British elections creates chaos and division,

1:50.7

and this, rather than any particular result, is Putin's real goal.

1:57.2

Russia may be reeling from a collapse in oil prices on one of the highest rates of COVID-19 infection in the world,

2:03.6

but Moscow relies on pushing the idea that it's the West that is really in trouble,

2:08.6

racked with violent culture wars and suffering from a profound loss of faith in its own values.

2:14.6

The Kremlin's new party line is, we may have it bad, but their crisis is much worse.

2:21.7

And where Putin's propagandists lead, its trolls and hackers follow.

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