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Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud. Each week we choose three pieces from the magazine and ask their writers to read them aloud. I'm Oscar Edminson and on the podcast this week.

James Heel reads his interview with George Eustace.

Lionel Shriver asks what's the price of fairness? And Tangil Rashid reads his arts lead on the BBC

at 100. Up first, James Heel.

His Brexit failing, those who believe it is, point to George Eustace, the former Tory Environment

Secretary, who told the Commons last week that the Australia trade deal was a dud. Here was a

Brexiteer, a one-time UK candidate, saying that the biggest trade deal the Boris Johnson

years was deeply flawed. A belief Rishi Sunak is understood to share. I don't regret it,

says Eustace, as we sit in Port Cullis House. It's just not actually a very

good deal. The agreement struck by Liz Truss, then the trade secretary, gave Australia and New Zealand

unlimited access to the UK market for its beef and sheep, while Australia bans the import of British

beef. Too much was given away under the agreement, says Eustace, which nine years in government

ended when Truss was elected. He fears the British beef could be undercut, but Australasian hormone-treated

beef. In the Commons, Eustace claimed that Trust shattered the UK's negotiating position,

and that Crawford Falconer, the Trade Department's top civil servant, ought to be sacked,

having accepted concessions that were against UK interests.

Eustace said that now he's on the backbenchers, he no longer has to put such a positive

gloss on what was agreed, which is putting it mildly.

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