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Spectator Out Loud: Chris Daw, Lionel Shriver and Sam Russell

Best of the Spectator

The Spectator

News Commentary, News, Daily News, Society & Culture

4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2021

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

On this episode: Chris Daw QC on the blame game that surrounds the Hillsborough disaster and why it's time to move on (01:00); Lionel Shriver suggests we should just give Scottish nationalists what they want and watch the chaos unfold (07:40); and Sam Russell, the Spectator's new broadcast producer, talks about how book lovers are turning TikTok into a book club (16:25).

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. absolutely free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher.

0:28.4

Hello and welcome to Spectator Outloud. Every week, a few of our favourite writers read out

0:33.7

their piece for you from the latest issue. This episode, we're going to be joined by

0:38.3

Crystal QC, who writes about the blame game that surrounds the Hillsborough disaster, and why

0:43.1

now is the time to move on. Then, Lionel Shriver, who suggests that on Scottish nationalism,

0:49.6

we should just give the nationalists what they want and watch chaos unfold. And finally, Sam Sam Russell, our new podcast producer who's joined the team, and he writes about

0:58.5

how book lovers are turning TikTok into a book club.

1:02.4

First, it's Crystal Kesey.

1:04.7

Eight years ago, I was instructed as leading council for two South Yorkshire police officers

1:09.9

who had overseen the force's evidence

1:12.1

gathering in response to the Hillsborough Stadium disaster. They were accused of trying to minimise

1:17.6

the blame placed on the police by amending witness statements. It has been the longest and most

1:23.1

challenging assignment of my 27-year career, with the weight of public and media opinion

1:28.5

pitted heavily against us. Finally, last week, the only one of my two clients to be criminally

1:35.1

charged, 83-year-old retired Chief Superintendent Donald Denton, was cleared, alongside a 74-year-old

1:42.5

retired detective inspector and the former police solicitor.

1:46.4

It was a just outcome that demonstrated judicial integrity and independence at its best.

1:52.9

I have been a lifelong Liverpool fan and was a season ticket holder for years.

1:58.0

I was not at the fateful semi-final in Sheffield on the 15th of April 1989,

2:03.0

in which 96 innocent people died. But I had a standing ticket for the F.A. Cup final at Wembley

2:09.2

between Liverpool and Everton, just a few weeks after the disaster. The case was very close to

2:15.2

home for me. That's why, before taking on the case, like most people, I had certain preconceptions.

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