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Spectator Out Loud: Andy Owen, Mary Wakefield and Toby Young

Best of the Spectator

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2021

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode, former intelligence officer Andy Owen gives his reflections on where we went wrong in Afghanistan - based on what he saw on the ground; Spectator columnist Mary Wakefield talks about the rise in neighbourhood crime; and Toby Young asks - why have my suits shrunk in lockdown?

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0:00.0

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0:07.6

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0:28.3

Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud. Every week, a few of our favourite writers read out their articles from the latest issue.

0:35.4

First, we'll be joined by the former intelligence officer

0:37.6

Andy Owen about what we can learn from our mistakes in Afghanistan. He had spent some time

0:42.6

in Helmand. Then spectator columnist Mary Wakefield joins the podcast and she talks about the

0:47.8

rise in neighbourhood crime and an app called Next Door. And finally Toby Young explores the

0:53.7

bizarre phenomenon of shrinking suits in lockdown.

0:57.1

First up, it's Andy Owen. After two tours of Iraq as a soldier, I spent six months in Afghanistan

1:04.5

in 2007 as part of Operation Herrick 6. My deployment came a year after the then Defence Secretary, John Reid,

1:12.6

said we would be perfectly happy to leave the country in three years time without firing one shot.

1:17.6

However, the very first night I arrived in Lashkar, the capital of Helmand, troops were battling the Taliban across the province,

1:24.6

with thousands of shots fired every day.

1:31.3

Plans would be made about how we would evacuate our camp if it was overrun.

1:40.2

Today, 14 years on, as the final US troops depart, left behind a more than 47,000 dead Afghan civilians,

1:46.4

more than 3,500 dead soldiers from the coalition and a country on the cusp of civil war. Lashkar will probably become one of the first major cities to fall to the resurgent Taliban.

1:53.4

The war on terror is yesterday's news, politicians say, having been replaced by the return of great

1:59.0

power rivalries. The rise of China, Russia's disinformation

2:03.2

war and the increase in cyber warfare are the issues that now dominate. George W. Bush's

2:09.5

misguided war in Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9-11 now seems as much a part of history as the Victorian

2:15.5

great game. For many, do not intervene is the

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