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Hello American Prestige listeners, it's Derek, and I am joined, very thankfully joined on very short notice by returning guests, Jason Stearns. He's the associate professor at Simon Fraser University. He's the author of the war that doesn't say its name,

The Unending Conflict in the Congo.

That was published in 2022.

He's also a co-founder of the Ebbotelli Research Institute based in Kinshasa.

And we're going to talk about events, recent events in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Jason, thank you so much for coming back to the show.

Sure, no problem.

So it's been too long since we had you on.

It's really been too long since we had you on last time.

We have done, obviously, we did an episode with you a while ago on just the overall situation, all the various

conflicts in the Eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. We've done an episode more recently

on the M23 conflict specifically. But as we were covering over the last couple of weeks,

the war between Israel and Iran,

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