Special Report: Stealing Indigenous Voices in Australia (w/Tyson Yunkaporta)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

On October 14, Australians will vote in a referendum on a simple question: should Indigenous peoples be invited to form an advisory council—a Voice—to Parliament? It seemed like a shoe-in “Yes”—before the issue was FUBARed by a coalition of antivax, anti lockdown, Q-adjacent white sovereign citizens who believe that they are the true victims of colonization. Professor Tyson Yunkaporta of Apalech clan joins Matthew to discuss the complexities of this history—including how some vulnerable Indigenous folks have been lured into supporting the “No” vote and providing cover for libertarian and white supremacist agendas. Yunkaporta is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne AUS, author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World (2019) and released just this past week: Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking. He’s also the host of the excellent free range podcast The Other Others. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/CONSPIRITUALITY and use code CONSPIRITUALITY to receive ground beef for life plus $20 off your first order. Show Notes Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University Referendum 202 Conspiracy theories are derailing the Yes vote w/ Tyson Yunkaporta Voice pamphlets: false claims and conspiracy theories distributed across Australia | Indigenous voice to parliament How a soap opera star pushed a conspiracy theory linking the Voice to Parliament to a UN takeover Key voice battleground South Australia is ‘leaning to no’, campaign volunteers say | Indigenous voice to parliament View The Statement - Uluru Statement from the Heart Aboriginal Tent Embassy — 'the guys who woke up Australia' — marks its 50th anniversary So-Called Sovereign Settlers: Settler Conspirituality and Nativism in the Australian Anti-Vax Movement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.
0:12.0	Hello, everyone. Welcome to Conspirituality, where we investigate the intersection of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience and authoritarian extremism.
0:24.0	Today, I should add to that tagline, white sovereign citizen Australians who believe that they are the true victims of colonization.
0:34.0	I'm Matthew Remske. I'm welcoming my guest professor Tyson Junkoporta of Appalich clan, that's West Cape, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, Australia.
0:48.0	He's the author of Sand Talk, how Indigenous thinking can save the world. That's in 2019.
0:54.0	And then released just this past week, write story, wrong story, adventures in Indigenous thinking.
1:00.0	Also, the host of an excellent free range podcast called The Other Others.
1:06.0	Welcome, professor. It's a real honor to speak with you. Thanks so much for taking the time.
1:12.0	Yo, Matthew, you know, no titles. We don't do titles in our lab.
1:18.0	So I'm not a professor, no one's a professor in there. We all go on the same level.
1:24.0	Some people insist on it, but you know that people don't get it.
1:30.0	So our discussion today is going to drop about a week out from a referendum to be held in Australia on October 14.
1:40.0	And this was the fire behind my first email to you.
1:44.0	This pending vote sits on top of a deep and tangled history that I know you can help many people understand.
1:50.0	Including how some Indigenous folks have found themselves aligned with white libertarians who love to use their language, their politics even.
2:01.0	But before we get to that, I'll just take a few moments to cover the immediate news in a little bit of detail.
2:08.0	So the referendum itself is on a question that has been burbling for decades.
2:12.0	And that one might think in this day and age of moderate and grudging concessions from commonwealth governments towards their colonized peoples would have a simple answer.
2:23.0	So the question is, should the constitution of Australia be amended to create a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice, charged with speaking for Indigenous issues directly to the parliament?
2:37.0	Yes or no? So is that basically it?
2:40.0	Yeah, yeah. It's just just speaking, just speaking, not not policymaking or changing anything or anything like that.
2:47.0	It's just every now and then they speak.
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