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Hey folks, welcome to the projection booth.

I'm your host, Mike White.

On this bonus episode, I am talking with Sam Ham.

We were originally talking about the movie Never Cry Wolf, which is one of his first gigs.

This is the second part of our interview where I shifted gears a little bit

and was asking him about some other things, including his version of the Fantastic Four.

I know last time we talked a lot about Batman, and when I look up your name, that's the thing

that always comes to the top. Sam Ham, Sam Ham, he worked on Batman.

I am curious, though, this was one of your first gigs, if I'm correct, working on

Never Cry Wolf.

And how did you come to that?

And if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you how you kind of got into the screenwriting

business.

Those are actually slight variations on the same question because Never Cry

Wolf was the first actual production that I ever worked on.

I've written a couple of spec screenplays and stuff like that before, but the way I

got into it is actually kind of hilarious.

It is a fluke that I'm in the movie business

at all. I had a couple of buddies in the late 70s, and we were all sitting around semi-employed

with, and not much to do, sort of like, you know, as people in the pandemic of today, we decided

that, you know, since we had a lot of free time,

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