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Hello, I'm Sammy Sage and welcome to Betches News.

We are here today with a very special guest.

You may know him as, I think it was Ryan from Laguna Beach.

Laguna Beach, no, it was the O.C.

It's in the same county. It's in O.C. Right.

Did a guy from Laguna Beach make an anti-crypto documentary? Wait. Which one? Which one? Okay. I, look, I, the good thing is I have seen your crypto documentary too. So, okay, I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. I'm not one of those. What are those guys names? I can't remember their names. Oh, wait, wait. Steven. That I can hear. Steven, that's what I can remember. Okay, well, we're messing up all of our 2000s, you know, celebrity, Southern California heart drops. We'll do a bonus feature for mid-a-a-early-a-early-a-reality TV. We'll do an extra-a-half. Yeah. Perfect. I mean, everyone, everywhere,

and you put this in the documentary. So we're here with Ben McKenzie, most famously known as Ryan

from the OC. Do you ever get sick of that? Because in the documentary, you put a bunch of clips

of people calling you that. Yes. You know, I'm 47 years old. It's been 24 years or so, is it, is it, is it,

ish, since the show started. So, you know, I've had to come to peace with, with my, my lot in life.

There's worse things of being recognized for a TV show you did many years ago. No, I, I think

when I was younger, I mean, if you want the honest answer, I think when I was younger, it was harder because I hadn't done other things. So when people understandably were like, Ryan, it's hard not to like internalize that. I mean, like, I'm more than that, you know, because you haven't done it yet. But once you've done other stuff, then, you know, like running a New York

Times bestselling book on economics, no big deal. I'm the only six-time Teen Choice Award

nominee to have written a best-selling book on economics. I feel pretty confident in saying that.

You know, and what I wanted to actually get to here is that you are so dynamic and so interesting.

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