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Hey folks, welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host, Mike White. On this special

episode, I am talking with Pat Jenkowitz. He is the author of Just When You Thought It Was Safe,

a Jaws companion. We actually talked a little while ago when I was putting together the Jaws episode and things just didn't work out for us.

But he's back and we are now talking about that as well as some of the other books that he's worked on as well as his career in Hollywood just a little bit.

Had a great time talking with Pat and I hope you have a great time listening to this

interview. Enjoy. Obviously, I want to talk to you about your Jaws book, but I would love to talk to you

a little bit more about your career and some of your other books as well, if you're up for it.

I'd be honored. Thank you very much. You are a fellow Detroiter. I'm calling you from Westland, Michigan. That's fantastic. How cold is it?

Oh, it's pretty darn cold. It wants the snow, but it's still raining right now.

Do you slates and snow? I don't know. I don't know. I don't imagine you do. You don't have to shovel a lot of sunshine, I imagine.

Thank God. Thank God. I went to a Christmas tree wedding the other night, and I got sprayed with fake snow.

And I just laughed because I walked to my car and melted into my hair and all was well.

So tell me about you.

Tell me about growing up in Detroit and how you, did you become a writer first and then an actor,

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