We have a special post-debate podcast and I couldn't have two better guests, two of the smartest people in any room, two friends of mine.

Caddy Kay, who is of course a BBC U.S. Special Correspondent, MS NBC Contributor,

New York Times Best Selling Author, and a co-host of the

restless politics with my good friend, The Mooch, Anthony Scaramuchi, who also has a

podcast, the Open Book Podcast on my favorite place, Gemini 13 Network, which is what we're doing here.

Welcome, guys, thanks for doing this. I know Moosch, you had a long night last night. You had a, you got

an invitation from Kamala to be in the spin room. First of all, hold up, the mooch sign.

Yeah, you've got to see the swag. I've already shown the mooch. I can look at, okay, look, you know,

now, Caddy called it a lollipop, but you're from Queens, you wouldn't call this a

lollipop. Let me just show it. okay, ready, here we go, there?

So here, for those on radio,

this is probably one of the longest names

in American political history, and there it is.

And I wanted my name to be longer last night

Donnie yes I know you got a very long sign it's very long I mean you so all the

all the Anglicans were very jealous of my sign comparatively, okay?

Yeah, Donnie, you know what a child is and how happy is to have that.

It's going to be like, we're never going to hear the end of it.

Of course.

So, Kaddy, let me start with you, just first thoughts.

I mean, there's so much to talk about.

Look, I thought, she prepped, and it turns out that if you want to go on a debate stage

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