Stephen Hawking starts A Brief History of Time with an anecdote he attributes to Bertrand Russel who, having just finished a lecture on the heliocentric nature of the planets’ orbits, was challenged by a lady in the audience.

“What you have told us is rubbish.” She said, “The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant turtle."

"If your theory is correct, madam," Russell replied, "then what does this turtle stand on?"

"You're a very clever man, and that's a very good question," she replied, "but the first turtle stands on the back of a second, far larger, turtle, who stands directly under him."

"But what does this second turtle stand on?" persisted Russell patiently.

And I think we all know her answer to this, which was of course that “it's turtles all the way down."

The World Turtle is a mytheme of a giant turtle supporting the world. It occurs in Hindu mythology, Chinese mythology, the mythologies of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, and, of course, has nothing to do with lending. So why am I dedicating so much real estate to the idea?

Well, because the idea was reflected in Terry Pratchet’s incredibly popular Disc World Series of books, and those inspired today’s guest, Gideon Griebenow, to give up his credit risk career to become an independent game developer. World Turtles is a wholesome colony builder game where you guide a tribe of creatures, called Meeps, on their mission to save themselves and the world they live on... and it’s just gone live for early release on Steam (20% off until 8 May)

But you can also get involved on their Discord Server (https://discord.com/invite/2NEb4HxwhF), while the Youtube channel is here (https://www.youtube.com/c/RecOgMission) and there is a subreddit, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram account, too.

You can learn more about myself, Brendan le Grange, on my LinkedIn page (feel free to connect), my action-adventure novels are on Amazon, some versions even for free, and my work with ConfirmU and our gamified psychometric scores is at https://confirmu.com/ and on episode 24 of this very show https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/episodes/episode-24

If you have any feedback, questions, or if you would like to participate in the show, please feel free to reach out to me via the contact page on this site.

Regards, Brendan

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