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As you know, oddcast friend, we don't do that many interviews, but I wanted to talk to Kyle Eidleman.

He wrote a book called One at a Time.

He's also read, I'll just read his bio, and then we'll get into the interview.

Okay.

I have to put my phone light on the book because I can't read those small print anymore.

I never felt older than I do right now.

Kyle Eidleman, I'm just reading off the book,

is the senior pastor at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Kentucky,

the bestselling and award-winning author of several books,

including not a fan.

That was a huge selling book.

And a frequent speaker for conventions, conferences,

and influential churches across the country.

He, Kyle and his wife have four children and live on a farm where he doesn't do any actual farming.

It says, which I meant to ask him about that.

That's kind of a dream of Martin.

To have a farm, but do no farming?

Yeah, when I was prepping the interview, I wanted to talk about it.

I'm like, I'm going to spend

too much time talk about how I would like to have a Charlotte's Web type environment for myself

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