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It's another special edition of the podcast. We're doing an interview with Paul and Virginia Friesen, PhDs, both of them, if you need that sort of thing.

And they've been married for 40-some years.

They're awesome.

And my wife and I consult with them on things and counsel with them.

They counsel us.

I want to make that clear.

Not the other way around.

But they're awesome.

And we did part one in the podcast yesterday.

I hope you enjoy this, and it's helpful to you.

There's a trash truck driving by. There is. Yeah. I'm wondering if you heard that, that's not

any indication of what this podcast would be like. No, it's not total trash. No, it's good.

It's good. Real good. All right. So, can you hear it back in?

Yeah, it had a beep in.

Pretty awesome.

We hope you could pick this up if you can't.

Sorry.

So anyway, they're great.

And if you want to get a copy of their book called the Marriage app, it's really worth

reading.

And they're wonderful to help marriages.

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