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🗓️ 30 July 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Ndamukong sits down with Rich Kleiman–a multi-hyphenate entrepreneur best known as NBA star Kevin Durant’s agent and business partner. Rich talks about how his early hustle as a bookie and music manager led him into the world of sports and, eventually, to his partnership with KD–with whom he’s founded Boardroom and 35 Ventures. He shares how his biggest breaks –across music, sports, and investing–ultimately came when he showed up as his true self, forged relationships, and figured out how to “move around the room".
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| 0:00.0 | Athletes aren't just chasing wins. |
| 0:08.5 | They're building empires. |
| 0:09.9 | On no free lunch from The Athletic, NFL star in Domingu dives into money, mindset, and making moves in business with top athletes and financial pros. |
| 0:19.5 | Enjoy this episode and be sure to subscribe to No Free lunch with new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. He's going to have to have trials and tribulations of saying, hey, I'm going to try this, I don't like that, I'm going to throw that away. I'm going to go to this, I'm going to try that. And so, like, I'm in the midst of that process. And I've been fortunate. I've hit a lot of, like, great lightning bolts that I'm really, really excited about. But there's still so much more for me to try. The irony of it all is when people like you and Kevin retire, you go from being old to young. Because you might be old in football, but you're young in real life. |
| 0:56.1 | And you've got so many things you can do. |
| 1:05.2 | No free lunch is presented by T.Rowe Price. |
| 1:09.4 | The information provided on this podcast is for informational purposes |
| 1:13.0 | only and should not be considered financial or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified |
| 1:18.3 | financial and or legal professionals before making any legal or financial decisions or |
| 1:23.2 | investments. I'm Indomacan Su and welcome to No Free Lunch, where we talk to experts and athletes about how the most successful people in sports manage their money and grow their wealth. |
| 1:34.5 | When you think of the most successful athletes off the field, you might think of Magic Johnson, George Format, or even Jumpman, Michael Jordan. |
| 1:41.3 | From media to tech and venture capital, athletes are creating real enterprises |
| 1:45.9 | that will last for decades after they're done playing. Arguably, nobody is doing it better than |
| 1:50.5 | Kevin Durant. So today, I'm speaking with Katie's longtime agent and business partner, Rich Kleinman, |
| 1:55.8 | to discuss how athletes can build their post-retirement career while they're still playing. |
| 2:04.0 | Let's talk about it right here on No Free Lunch. |
| 2:10.8 | Today's guest on No Free Lunch is a trailblazer in the sports and entertainment business. |
| 2:16.2 | He's a longtime business partner of Kevin Durant, aka KD. |
| 2:18.8 | And Rich, welcome to the show, man. |
| 2:20.6 | Thank you, man. |
| 2:21.9 | I'm excited to be on. |
| 2:23.0 | No free lunch. |
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