The Vice Presidential Candidates debate wraps up at CBS News Headquarters in New York City.

You see the candidates there being joined by their wives, Usha Vance and Gwen Wall's, a cordial debate between these two

men.

I wouldn't describe them as evenly matched because they are so different, so different in style and so different on substance.

Very interested to hear from the spin room to hear from all of my colleagues here

to get to all of the analysis that we're going to get to.

I think the big picture

take away from this is that one of these candidates is much slicker than the

other is a much more practiced kind of professional debate style speaker and the other candidate won.

There was one bad moment for Tim Wall's in this debate where he got mixed up and embarrassed

in answering a question about exactly what month he had been in China in

relation to the Tiananmen Square protest. But then on guns, on January 6th, on

Obamacare, on the economy, on blaming everything on the issue on substance, J.D. Vance was very polished and very slick and Tim Wall's

beat him on all the substantive points. At least that was my take on it.

I do think that there was one very blunt, very easily

disprovable lie on a very important issue

that is going to be real trouble for JD Vance coming out of

this which was him saying I never supported a national ban on abortion.

J.D. Vance is bluntly on the record and on tape saying I want abortion to be illegal nationwide. His actual quote was I

certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally saying I never supported a national abortion ban

when that's out there is something you're never going to shake

in your campaign, particularly when so much of the country is

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