Welcome back to After Reality. It's Courtney here. Happy Friday and happy Mother's Day weekend.

This one's for you, moms. Cheers. Today's episode is really special to me. I'm sharing a phone call

with my grandma, who's 98, my grandma, Angie, Papa Robertson's mom. But before we get into it, I just wanted this episode to be a

reminder to call the people you love, even if it's just a quick catch-up, maybe you don't have the

perfect thing to say, just to check in. It might make their day. And honestly, it might make yours

too. It's free. And my grandma has been calling me and I haven't had a chance to get back

to her. So we had a great call. My grandma's 98 years old. She's still sharp, still funny, still full of

faith and still giving me little pieces of wisdom without even trying. We talk about life, family,

motherhood, the beautiful Hawaiian quilt she made me, which was a true laborer love.

And she jokes about how she's supposed to be teaching the ladies at her retirement home how to sew, but she just doesn't want to do it.

And there's also a really tender part of our conversation where she talks about her daughter, my aunt,

Elaine Robertson, who went missing in May of 1979. All these years later, she still holds out

hope and still praise for her. And when you hear her talk about Elaine, you'll hear the real love

of a mother, the kind of love that never leaves, never gives up, and

never stops hoping. So it's a sensitive story in our family. I haven't ever talked about it.

You guys know if you've been listening, I follow a lot of true crime. And I think that that's

part of the reason why I have called the investigators over the years.

And I think if you've lost a child or a family member, I always say, like, I would hope that you would never stop searching.

And my grandma Angie never really has.

So that part really stayed with me, especially this week because my baby, Gabriel Ricardo,

he just turned two in the last week. And I was going through old photos on my phone to print

for his birthday party. I always do that. I kind of put him around the house and then I give him to

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