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The Politics Guys

Special Masters, Trump Rally, Removing Insurrectionists, Labor Laws

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Mike & Jay open the episode with a discussion of Judge Aileen Cannon’s order to appoint a special master to review the Trump Mar-a-Lago raid documents. Mike agrees with many legal analysts (including former Trump Attorney General Bill Barr) that the ruling is on shaky legal ground but sees is as politically wise. Jay agrees, though he thinks that Cannon’s order is more defensible than Mike believes it is. Next, they turn to Donald Trump’s Pennsylvania rally, which was full of the usual Trump tropes – wild unsupported assertions, airing of grievances, as well as the occasional mention of the candidates he was ostensibly there to support. Mike and Jay agree that Trump may have willingly walked into a trap set by Biden and Democrats, who are eager to make the upcoming midterm elections about Trump. But Jay doesn’t think that it’s likely to move the needle much, while Mike cautions his fellow Democrats to not be too surprised if Republicans end up with control of both chambers in January of 2025. Then it’s a look at the decision of a New Mexico judge who removed county commissioned Couy Griffin from office, citing his violation of the 14th Amendment’s Insurrection Clause. Mike & Jay agree that what Griffin did doesn’t amount to insurrection, and that it’s a bad precedent for judges to start deciding that those convicted of no more than misdemeanors are insurrectionists who are barred from office. Finally, they discuss California’s Fast Food Accountability and Standards Recovery Act, which Governor Newsome signed into law on Labor Day. Mike really likes the sectoral bargaining basis of the law, but he was disappointed in finding no good analyses of the costs and benefits of the legislation. Jay comes out firing, as he hates pretty much everything about the new law. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out RedCircle, home of The Politics Guys. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

atheist agnostics, long-haired, weirdos, short-haired widows, vandal,

0:05.6

Gula.

0:05.8

I'm the government, hug the government, love the government, hug the government, love the government,

0:11.9

hug the government, hug the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:17.7

I'm Michael Baranowski, Professor of Political Science at Northern Kentucky University.

0:22.1

I'm joined today by my conservative counterpart, Cleveland area attorney and defender of freedom,

0:26.5

Jay Carson. Hey, good afternoon, Mike. Hey, good afternoon, Jay. How are you doing this afternoon?

0:31.7

Well, like a special master with a pile full of presidential documents, I'm ready to dig in here.

0:36.9

You go, all right. Yeah, well, I'm ready to dig in here. There you go.

0:37.7

All right.

0:38.5

Yeah, well,

0:38.9

we will certainly get into special masters and a whole bunch of other stuff,

0:44.1

including that interesting rally response rally.

0:47.9

I don't know,

0:48.4

Donald Trump had in Pennsylvania after Joe Biden's speech.

0:52.3

And the insurrectionist Trumpist, who was removed from office in New Mexico

0:57.3

and maybe some just post-labor-day thoughts on the state of labor in America and an interesting new

1:03.8

labor law in California that I can guarantee Jay is going to absolutely hate. So it'll be a lot of fun. Yeah, we have a lot to talk about. And we will get

1:14.1

going in just one second. Okay, Jay, you know, before we get started, I want to let folks know that

1:20.2

you and I are doing something new, or at least we are embarking on something new in the weeks to come.

1:27.8

And that is Mike and Jay's Book Club.

1:29.9

It's sort of an idea that we've been talking about this kind of randomly for years.

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