Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break.

That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both.

But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice.

This collab is going to be super fun.

We have Daniel Murray from the marketing millennials and me, Jay Schwettleson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com.

Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics.

And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine.

Just don't tell us about it.

Thanks for checking it out.

Welcome back to another bathroom breaks.

I am Daniel Murray and I'm here with the king of email, Jay Swettleson. There's nothing more to say than the

king of email, really. I can't even think of anything. The fakes statement of all time, but that's fine.

I have a question for you. And we don't, we didn't talk about this at a time. So I'm just curious. I never know. Are you a big nerd? What I mean by that is,

like, are you into Star Trek, Star Wars? I don't mean that you're a nerd if you are, because I'm into all that,

like, Marvel movies. Is any of that your speed? Or are you like, no, no, no, I'm too cool for that? I would say I'm considered like an underground nerd.

I don't portray myself as a nerd, but Ari thinks on the biggest nerd, and she hates all that stuff.

If I'm going to watch Star Wars, I actually think I'm more Marvel movies first. I've always been a Marvel,

a Marvel, DC comics type person first. And then I would go to big Harry Potter guy, big Lord

of the Rings, now also Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. Shout out to everybody's watching that.

I actually never got into Star Trek, though. I couldn't, I don't know why. I just never got into

Star Trek. Do you know, I've never, oh, first of all, I watch everything you just said,

except I've never seen a single episode of Game of Thrones, ever. I mean, you're probably saving yourself a little bit of pain and anguish, but the first

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