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SPECIAL | Is Trump's deployment of the National Guard about order or overreach?

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USA TODAY

News, Daily News

4.11.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Since June of 2025, thousands of National Guard troops have been deployed to four US cities – Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Chicago and Memphis. And, if President Donald Trump has his way, Portland, Oregon, will be fifth on the list. Trump says the deployments are a push to crack down on crime and to support his widespread deportation efforts. But when a president deploys the National Guard over the objections of governors and local mayors, is the decision about keeping the peace, or testing the limits of executive power? USA TODAY Breaking News Reporter Michael Loria joins USA TODAY’s The Excerpt to unpack the issues surrounding this unprecedented deployment of US troops on American soil.

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0:00.0

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0:13.0

We're going to save all of our cities, and we're going to make them essentially crime-free.

0:19.4

Since June of 2025, thousands of National Guard troops have been deployed to four U.S.

0:24.5

cities, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Chicago, and Memphis.

0:28.8

And if President Donald Trump has his way, Portland, Oregon will be fifth on the list.

0:34.2

Hello, and welcome to a special episode of USA Today's The Exert.

0:38.2

I'm Dana Taylor.

0:43.2

Trump says the deployments are a push to crack down on crime and to support his widespread deportation efforts. But when a president deploys the National Guard over the objections of

0:49.3

governors and local mayors is the decision about keeping the peace or testing the limits of executive power.

0:56.4

Here to help me unpack the issues surrounding this unprecedented deployment of U.S. troops

1:01.1

on American soil is USA Today breaking news reporter Michael Loria.

1:06.2

Michael, it's really good to have you on.

1:07.7

Thanks so much for having me on.

1:08.6

Are legal boundaries being tested here with

1:11.7

the deployment of the National Guard for domestic operations such as those protecting ICE agents?

1:18.2

How's the Trump administration responded to the accusations of federal overreach?

1:23.2

As we're seeing from the pushback from attorney generals in democratically led states, these

1:28.6

lawyers are saying that Trump is crossing a lot of lines, you know, from lawyers in D.C. saying

1:34.9

that they're violating the district's right to govern itself to attorneys in Illinois, basically

1:41.0

questioning whether the justifications that the Trump administration is making

1:44.6

around deploying the troops are tethered to reality.

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