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The history of incarceration in America is complex, making the practice of profiting from prison labor,

both inside of prisons and outside for private industries, even more fraught.

Last month in Alabama, a Hyundai supplier ended its work release program following intense pressure to do so.

But in California, Proposition 6, which would have banned involuntary prison labor, was defeated last November.

Are laws that allow private industry as well as state governments to profit from prison labor constitutional.

Here to help us understand the way some of these programs work, as well as what both proponents and detractors of the practice say about them is Derek Hamilton, the Henry Cohen Professor of Economics and Urban Policy at the New School and Chief Economist at the AFL-CIO.

Thanks for joining me, Derek.

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