Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better writer.

I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story that works.

In this episode, I have both Steve Pressfield and Sean Coyne joining me to talk about resistance and talk about how you can build your

career as a writer. And it's all around Steve's new book. Nobody wants to read your shit.

This is part two. And so if you haven't listened to last week's episodes, you're going to want to

start there because Steve has joined us for two entire episodes. Steve, of course, is a really smart guy.

He's been writing for a long time and getting to quiz both Sean and Steve around how to

become a better writer has been a lot of fun for me, and I think you're really going to

enjoy it.

So we're going to jump in and get started on this part two with Stephen Pressfield.

All right, so we were talking some last time. I liked the question you had for Sean of like,

can you see it in their eye? And it's interesting because if I look back over 10 years of

working for myself, I remember a time in the first year where I spent half the day

playing this stupid video game called World of Warcraft or Warcraft or something like that.

And it was because of so many things where now I know how to lock it in and work. A buddy of mine was saying, I was talking to

you yesterday who's a writer. He says he's building a new house and he's going to rip the

internet out of the room that he writes in because he just falls into the Wikipedia holes all

the time. And I'm like, no, I can, when I decide to work, I just work.

But that's been a long process of learning.

And actually, right before we got on the phone, I was talking to a guy named Cal Newport

who wrote the book, Deep Work.

And, you know, what, I feel like there's this resistance that keeps us from working like you talk about.

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